Rewatch: #01: The Torque Armada
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Rewatch: #01: The Torque Armada
A wee bit late, for which I apologise. Long story short, my hardrive fried and I lost all my files, so I had to get a new one and I've been reinstalling all my programs again since then. At least I had BLoSC on my external! I promise the next episode will be on time next week!
INTRODUCTION
I’ll only touch upon this once since it repeats for all episodes. We get a lovely CGI opening from Pixar with an announcer telling of Buzz Lightyear. And as he speaks, Toy!Buzz does all these weird flips and whatnot, eager to watch the show as he and the other toys gather around the TV. This is, again, I feel a ploy to reach out to Toy Story fans and try to drag them into BLoSC. And more often than not, they are given the wrong impression. Unless they’re one of the smart kids like us and stick around for the ride.
SETTINGS
THE ROOKIES
By now, we figure that the members of Team Lightyear work together as a team. It’s still early on in the rookies’ careers so they’re still pretty green; XR and Booster are particularly nervous about it, and it’s understandable seeing as they’re on their own. It’s probably their first real case on their own without the support of either Mira and Buzz, both of whom are far more experienced than them. Naturally, they get into trouble with Torque, but Buzz is already there in disguise and Mira soons arrives, ghosting through a wall.
Now, this can be taken in two different ways. One, Booster and XR were the bait. This was a premeditated plan and they were supposed to draw the attention on them so Buzz wouldn’t be noticed. However, their reactions seem too genuine for them to have been in on it. Maybe Buzz and Mira decided on them being the “bait” and purposefully sent the two off on their “own” so they could draw out Torque with the way they’d bumble. Or, it was genuinely going to be their first time on their own, but Buzz and Mira wanted to keep an eye on them and infiltrated regardless.
Whatever the case, they capture Torque, practically decimating the bar in the process. Is the destruction of property to capture a criminal even legal? I’m no police officer, but I’m sure that putting civilians in harm’s way, what with how several aliens were nearly shot during the crossfire, isn’t the proper way to go about things.
Then again, that could also be the reason they were given traffic duty in Tanker Alley afterwards. Even if you’re Buzz Lightyear, the hero of Star Command, you don’t get to avoid the consequences of your actions. I believe it’s a pretty logical conclusion. Sure, you catch bad guys and you do mundane jobs too, but even if you do manage your objective, you need to take into account the political repercussions, the social backlash, etc. etc. Being a Space Ranger sure isn’t easy!
TECHNOLOGY
First, the basics. Wide, flat screens, like the ones we’re used to, still exist. They’ve moved on to holographic emitters and images, as well as energy nets, blasters, the works, but it’s still a familiar setting with a lifestyle similar to ours. Or at least their system. Star Command is an overgrown police station, the Space Rangers are officers, and once they bring in a criminal, they take him to prison, or in this case PC-7 (more about that later). There’re criminal transports, Guard-Bots that make sure the criminals don’t escape, etc.
Tanker Alley consists of huge tanker ships carrying crystallic fusion fuel that are automatic and have no pilots. Ah, crystallic fusion. It’s the number one energy source in the world of BLoSC, found in the form of green crystals and mined from various locations, the most notable being Bathyos. It’s a shame most of this information is information we find out later on, but it really helps if you know the basics when examining these elements. However, the very lack of pilots or supervision of any kind seems pretty... risky to me. Sure they’ve got the buoys to keep them from getting out of Tanker Alley, but I’d hate to see what happens when two of those tankers collide with each other... and then again you’ve got people like Zurg and Torque who are willing to take advantage of the rather dodgy security of this system.
And then there’s, of course, Zurg’s cellular separation technology. Apparently what he installed on Torque’s chest was the latest technology of that variety. Just how did he get his hands on it and why, of all people, did he choose Torque to be his test-monkey? Sure, he wanted him to destroy Buzz, and seeing as Torque already had a rivalry with Buzz going on it sounded like the perfect opportunity. It just seems like pretty much a waste to invest in a liability, unless it has some severe side-effects of which Zurg doesn’t give a damn about. We’ll probably never know.
And lastly, still on the subject of Zurg, are his Hornets. They were kickass here, hijacking the convict cruiser and securing Torque. They decimated Star Command’s Guard-Bots within a matter of minutes. Why aren’t they ever this badass when they fight against Space Rangers? A little extra programming can go a long way when they’ve already got the potential!
TRADEWORLD
The first thing you notice is, of course Tradeworld, seeing as XR gives the viewers a brief explanation on it. Apparently, it’s the “criminal capital” of the Gamma Quadrant, and if you’ve done your homework you’ll know that Capital Planet, Star Command, and most of the Galactic Alliance are found in the Gamma Quadrant. Now, if you’re like me you’ll wonder why they leave a place like Tradeworld unsupervised if it’s within their borders, and why it’s become the so-called criminal capital. Obviously, it’s a dangerous place and security is lax. Hence the obvious reason XR is telling Booster that they ought to stick together.
Also, if you notice Tradeworld’s structure, it seems to be a large city situated in a bay. And as XR and Booster descend, you’ll notice how up above it looks modern, hi-tech and pristine, whereas the lower they descend, the dirtier, dingier and poorer it seems. There are screens everywhere, and markets on the lower lanes, as well as road lanes and sky lanes, both filled with traffic. It’s very interesting when you take the time to observe how a city looks like simply from paying attention to the background. With these simple observations, we can tell that there seems to be a caste system with rich people living closer to the sky and poor people living closer to the surface that’s pretty reminiscent of Tangean society. (Which will be discussed in more depth when we watch the appropriate episode.)
CHARACTERS
TORQUE
This is the first episode Torque shows up in and the first example of a criminal we have in BLoSC besides Zurg. Torque’s not your run-of-the-mill criminal, responsible for such things as arson, terrorism, and unpaid parking tickets, and wanted “in all fifty sectors”. Pretty hardcore, if you ask me! Judging by that description alone, he’s not someone you want to mess around with.
He’s got this gruff way of speaking and a sense of humour. He’s also pretty sharp despite appearing to be flippant; he’s multi-limbed but cleverly keeps his second set of arms out of sight and only uses it when it’s absolutely necessary. Most of the time, he uses the one set, and you sometimes forget that he’s got two more arms hidden beneath his jacket.
He seems to be indifferent and goes with the flow, but the only two times you don’t see him being cocky is when he realises Buzz is also in the bar and when Zurg has him strapped to the table preparing him for the operation. Torque seems like the kind of guy who uses anger as his fuel and hides behind a caustic and selfish demeanour.
Besides his four arms, Torque really had nothing “special” about him until Zurg gave him the cloning device. Initially, in this episode, it looks like the clones remain stable and don’t disappear after time or when hit or wounded, like in latter episodes. This is possibly because the ability wore off with time, which is also another reason Zurg didn’t particularly care to personally contact Torque again, or it could be because Torque’s cells have been divided so many time that there might be something more serious going on. But we’ll delve into this further later on.
ROCKET CROCKETT
Rocket Crockett is one of the many Space Rangers of Star Command. He’s the Captain of his own four-man team, and although we don’t see him all that often we can tell just by the little that we saw him that he’s not too fond of Buzz and he’s ecstatic that Buzz is doing traffic duty while he gets to chase down Torque. It’s interesting to note that Buzz remarks scathingly, “Need me to save your hide again?” when he first spots him, which hints at an animosity between the two.
Although we don’t have much information to go on, he’s sarcastic, snarky, and there’s definitely something up if some Rangers have a problem with Buzz like this.
EVIL EMPEROR ZURG
This episode has one of the only examples of Zurg making a genuine effort to be nice to his minions. It doesn’t backfire exactly, but it’s not his style to be nice and productivity seems to be relatively the same, if even worse what with those bonds made out of “nearly unbreakable alloy”. Oh, and he also loves “exercising” with his prisoners, which essentially consists of Zurg firing at a prisoner’s ankles and making him constantly run on the spot to avoid being hit. Brutal!
Also, did any of you feel crept out by how staged everything with Torque was? He broke him out, he put him on the cold slab of steel to operate on, and then he’s like “Nevermind! Not important~” in reference to how painful it’ll be. Wow, he’s such a bastard. xD It’s like he doesn’t care if someone he’s using is hurt or in pain as long as they can accomplish his plans. I also really loved the whole "DON'T. EVER. TOUCH. ME." part. Pretty intimidating if you ask me. You don't just manhandle the Evil Emperor like that! THE EVIL EMPEROR MANHANDLES YOU!
RELATIONSHIPS
BUZZ AND TORQUE
Buzz and Torque don’t get along. Torque thinks Space Rangers are weaklings and pathetic and Buzz gets riled up at Torque’s continues snark and attitude. Which is why, when given the opportunity to finally get even with him, Buzz doesn’t seem to think things through and jumps right into it. Although we know from “The Adventure Begins” that Buzz isn’t exactly the type of guy to plan on the spot, he’s usually good about observing his surroundings. Only this time... he rather flopped, probably due to wanting to get even with Torque.
Their exchanges are pretty funny. Torque makes constant jabs at Rangers and Buzz tries not to let it get to him, but you can see how Torque gets underneath his skin. They get to have more chances for scuffles in the future, naturally, but never as intense as their antagonism in this episode.
BOOSTER AND XR
Although I don’t have as much to say on them as I thought I would, Booster and XR, despite being so different, display that camaraderie and friendship of theirs that began developing in “The Adventure Begins”. Despite XR being bossy and trying to come off as a know-it-all, Booster’s as innocent and fanboyish as ever. They click well together despite being different, working together, having fun together, and getting into mischief together too.
BUZZ AND MIRA
Buzz and Mira seem to communicate better than they used to. They’re not as stubborn and pig-headed anymore, though they’re still not that familiar with each other either. Mira displays how supportive she is of him out of her respect, being there to back him up back in the bar and trying to help him to voice his feelings. Buzz in turn also treats her with respect, even though he’s not that comfortable with letting down his guard or talking about such a subject as “feelings”.
And for all ya Buzz and Mira shippers out there, when he saves her from the tank Mira blushes a most lovely shade of... pink! Does that mean Tangeans have red blood? I’d have figured it was a dark blue seeing as the Royals live so high up and in a floating palace, no less. But back on the subject. This can be taken two ways. One, Buzz is attempting to let down his defences long enough to breach personal space in order to save her and Mira’s had a crush on him since her teen years, or Buzz just pulled another saving-people-thing and Mira blushed because she was too distracted to notice it in time and because, hello, a guy is holding her around the waist. Attraction or not, I’d sure as hell be blushing like crazy.
QUESTIONS
1. Why do you think the Space Rangers haven’t made Tradeworld a significantly safer place?
2. What did you think of Buzz’s rivalry with Torque and Rocket Crockett?
3. Do you think that the cloning device Torque has causes him problems or will cause him problems in the future?
4. Is Buzz’s friction with other Rangers understandable or do you think he might be in the wrong? Do you think Rocket might be in the wrong instead?
Less hours than before, and now with pretty screenshots! Sorry I was late again... Dx
INTRODUCTION
I’ll only touch upon this once since it repeats for all episodes. We get a lovely CGI opening from Pixar with an announcer telling of Buzz Lightyear. And as he speaks, Toy!Buzz does all these weird flips and whatnot, eager to watch the show as he and the other toys gather around the TV. This is, again, I feel a ploy to reach out to Toy Story fans and try to drag them into BLoSC. And more often than not, they are given the wrong impression. Unless they’re one of the smart kids like us and stick around for the ride.
SETTINGS
THE ROOKIES
By now, we figure that the members of Team Lightyear work together as a team. It’s still early on in the rookies’ careers so they’re still pretty green; XR and Booster are particularly nervous about it, and it’s understandable seeing as they’re on their own. It’s probably their first real case on their own without the support of either Mira and Buzz, both of whom are far more experienced than them. Naturally, they get into trouble with Torque, but Buzz is already there in disguise and Mira soons arrives, ghosting through a wall.
Now, this can be taken in two different ways. One, Booster and XR were the bait. This was a premeditated plan and they were supposed to draw the attention on them so Buzz wouldn’t be noticed. However, their reactions seem too genuine for them to have been in on it. Maybe Buzz and Mira decided on them being the “bait” and purposefully sent the two off on their “own” so they could draw out Torque with the way they’d bumble. Or, it was genuinely going to be their first time on their own, but Buzz and Mira wanted to keep an eye on them and infiltrated regardless.
Whatever the case, they capture Torque, practically decimating the bar in the process. Is the destruction of property to capture a criminal even legal? I’m no police officer, but I’m sure that putting civilians in harm’s way, what with how several aliens were nearly shot during the crossfire, isn’t the proper way to go about things.
Then again, that could also be the reason they were given traffic duty in Tanker Alley afterwards. Even if you’re Buzz Lightyear, the hero of Star Command, you don’t get to avoid the consequences of your actions. I believe it’s a pretty logical conclusion. Sure, you catch bad guys and you do mundane jobs too, but even if you do manage your objective, you need to take into account the political repercussions, the social backlash, etc. etc. Being a Space Ranger sure isn’t easy!
TECHNOLOGY
First, the basics. Wide, flat screens, like the ones we’re used to, still exist. They’ve moved on to holographic emitters and images, as well as energy nets, blasters, the works, but it’s still a familiar setting with a lifestyle similar to ours. Or at least their system. Star Command is an overgrown police station, the Space Rangers are officers, and once they bring in a criminal, they take him to prison, or in this case PC-7 (more about that later). There’re criminal transports, Guard-Bots that make sure the criminals don’t escape, etc.
Tanker Alley consists of huge tanker ships carrying crystallic fusion fuel that are automatic and have no pilots. Ah, crystallic fusion. It’s the number one energy source in the world of BLoSC, found in the form of green crystals and mined from various locations, the most notable being Bathyos. It’s a shame most of this information is information we find out later on, but it really helps if you know the basics when examining these elements. However, the very lack of pilots or supervision of any kind seems pretty... risky to me. Sure they’ve got the buoys to keep them from getting out of Tanker Alley, but I’d hate to see what happens when two of those tankers collide with each other... and then again you’ve got people like Zurg and Torque who are willing to take advantage of the rather dodgy security of this system.
And then there’s, of course, Zurg’s cellular separation technology. Apparently what he installed on Torque’s chest was the latest technology of that variety. Just how did he get his hands on it and why, of all people, did he choose Torque to be his test-monkey? Sure, he wanted him to destroy Buzz, and seeing as Torque already had a rivalry with Buzz going on it sounded like the perfect opportunity. It just seems like pretty much a waste to invest in a liability, unless it has some severe side-effects of which Zurg doesn’t give a damn about. We’ll probably never know.
And lastly, still on the subject of Zurg, are his Hornets. They were kickass here, hijacking the convict cruiser and securing Torque. They decimated Star Command’s Guard-Bots within a matter of minutes. Why aren’t they ever this badass when they fight against Space Rangers? A little extra programming can go a long way when they’ve already got the potential!
TRADEWORLD
The first thing you notice is, of course Tradeworld, seeing as XR gives the viewers a brief explanation on it. Apparently, it’s the “criminal capital” of the Gamma Quadrant, and if you’ve done your homework you’ll know that Capital Planet, Star Command, and most of the Galactic Alliance are found in the Gamma Quadrant. Now, if you’re like me you’ll wonder why they leave a place like Tradeworld unsupervised if it’s within their borders, and why it’s become the so-called criminal capital. Obviously, it’s a dangerous place and security is lax. Hence the obvious reason XR is telling Booster that they ought to stick together.
Also, if you notice Tradeworld’s structure, it seems to be a large city situated in a bay. And as XR and Booster descend, you’ll notice how up above it looks modern, hi-tech and pristine, whereas the lower they descend, the dirtier, dingier and poorer it seems. There are screens everywhere, and markets on the lower lanes, as well as road lanes and sky lanes, both filled with traffic. It’s very interesting when you take the time to observe how a city looks like simply from paying attention to the background. With these simple observations, we can tell that there seems to be a caste system with rich people living closer to the sky and poor people living closer to the surface that’s pretty reminiscent of Tangean society. (Which will be discussed in more depth when we watch the appropriate episode.)
CHARACTERS
TORQUE
This is the first episode Torque shows up in and the first example of a criminal we have in BLoSC besides Zurg. Torque’s not your run-of-the-mill criminal, responsible for such things as arson, terrorism, and unpaid parking tickets, and wanted “in all fifty sectors”. Pretty hardcore, if you ask me! Judging by that description alone, he’s not someone you want to mess around with.
He’s got this gruff way of speaking and a sense of humour. He’s also pretty sharp despite appearing to be flippant; he’s multi-limbed but cleverly keeps his second set of arms out of sight and only uses it when it’s absolutely necessary. Most of the time, he uses the one set, and you sometimes forget that he’s got two more arms hidden beneath his jacket.
He seems to be indifferent and goes with the flow, but the only two times you don’t see him being cocky is when he realises Buzz is also in the bar and when Zurg has him strapped to the table preparing him for the operation. Torque seems like the kind of guy who uses anger as his fuel and hides behind a caustic and selfish demeanour.
Besides his four arms, Torque really had nothing “special” about him until Zurg gave him the cloning device. Initially, in this episode, it looks like the clones remain stable and don’t disappear after time or when hit or wounded, like in latter episodes. This is possibly because the ability wore off with time, which is also another reason Zurg didn’t particularly care to personally contact Torque again, or it could be because Torque’s cells have been divided so many time that there might be something more serious going on. But we’ll delve into this further later on.
ROCKET CROCKETT
Rocket Crockett is one of the many Space Rangers of Star Command. He’s the Captain of his own four-man team, and although we don’t see him all that often we can tell just by the little that we saw him that he’s not too fond of Buzz and he’s ecstatic that Buzz is doing traffic duty while he gets to chase down Torque. It’s interesting to note that Buzz remarks scathingly, “Need me to save your hide again?” when he first spots him, which hints at an animosity between the two.
Although we don’t have much information to go on, he’s sarcastic, snarky, and there’s definitely something up if some Rangers have a problem with Buzz like this.
EVIL EMPEROR ZURG
This episode has one of the only examples of Zurg making a genuine effort to be nice to his minions. It doesn’t backfire exactly, but it’s not his style to be nice and productivity seems to be relatively the same, if even worse what with those bonds made out of “nearly unbreakable alloy”. Oh, and he also loves “exercising” with his prisoners, which essentially consists of Zurg firing at a prisoner’s ankles and making him constantly run on the spot to avoid being hit. Brutal!
Also, did any of you feel crept out by how staged everything with Torque was? He broke him out, he put him on the cold slab of steel to operate on, and then he’s like “Nevermind! Not important~” in reference to how painful it’ll be. Wow, he’s such a bastard. xD It’s like he doesn’t care if someone he’s using is hurt or in pain as long as they can accomplish his plans. I also really loved the whole "DON'T. EVER. TOUCH. ME." part. Pretty intimidating if you ask me. You don't just manhandle the Evil Emperor like that! THE EVIL EMPEROR MANHANDLES YOU!
RELATIONSHIPS
BUZZ AND TORQUE
Buzz and Torque don’t get along. Torque thinks Space Rangers are weaklings and pathetic and Buzz gets riled up at Torque’s continues snark and attitude. Which is why, when given the opportunity to finally get even with him, Buzz doesn’t seem to think things through and jumps right into it. Although we know from “The Adventure Begins” that Buzz isn’t exactly the type of guy to plan on the spot, he’s usually good about observing his surroundings. Only this time... he rather flopped, probably due to wanting to get even with Torque.
Their exchanges are pretty funny. Torque makes constant jabs at Rangers and Buzz tries not to let it get to him, but you can see how Torque gets underneath his skin. They get to have more chances for scuffles in the future, naturally, but never as intense as their antagonism in this episode.
BOOSTER AND XR
Although I don’t have as much to say on them as I thought I would, Booster and XR, despite being so different, display that camaraderie and friendship of theirs that began developing in “The Adventure Begins”. Despite XR being bossy and trying to come off as a know-it-all, Booster’s as innocent and fanboyish as ever. They click well together despite being different, working together, having fun together, and getting into mischief together too.
BUZZ AND MIRA
Buzz and Mira seem to communicate better than they used to. They’re not as stubborn and pig-headed anymore, though they’re still not that familiar with each other either. Mira displays how supportive she is of him out of her respect, being there to back him up back in the bar and trying to help him to voice his feelings. Buzz in turn also treats her with respect, even though he’s not that comfortable with letting down his guard or talking about such a subject as “feelings”.
And for all ya Buzz and Mira shippers out there, when he saves her from the tank Mira blushes a most lovely shade of... pink! Does that mean Tangeans have red blood? I’d have figured it was a dark blue seeing as the Royals live so high up and in a floating palace, no less. But back on the subject. This can be taken two ways. One, Buzz is attempting to let down his defences long enough to breach personal space in order to save her and Mira’s had a crush on him since her teen years, or Buzz just pulled another saving-people-thing and Mira blushed because she was too distracted to notice it in time and because, hello, a guy is holding her around the waist. Attraction or not, I’d sure as hell be blushing like crazy.
QUESTIONS
1. Why do you think the Space Rangers haven’t made Tradeworld a significantly safer place?
2. What did you think of Buzz’s rivalry with Torque and Rocket Crockett?
3. Do you think that the cloning device Torque has causes him problems or will cause him problems in the future?
4. Is Buzz’s friction with other Rangers understandable or do you think he might be in the wrong? Do you think Rocket might be in the wrong instead?
Less hours than before, and now with pretty screenshots! Sorry I was late again... Dx
Re: Rewatch: #01: The Torque Armada
Ah, I'm ready for this! I prepared my notes early because I thought I would be busy on Saturday, but plans fell through. Enough of that! Here are my notes:
And now, for the questions...
- Spoiler:
- Sooo many flashy flashies. First the screen with Starkisser then the criminal identifier...
Buzz's drink has a little umbrella in it... Purple drink and pink umbrella!
That's a rather girly voice on the bug guy... Don't know why I care.
Woah, woah! Giant guns on the space rangers' part! Where'd they pull those from? XR's storage? And why does the surface of the bar make the blasts bounce back?
Geeze, I know that in a space ship you want to organize the rooms so not to waste space, but don't you think they could have avoided putting the prisoner right next to the kitchen area?
Booster's "Oh" makes me feel like he doesn't actually know what the tankers hold. XD
Huh... Zurg's voice seems a little deeper here. I suppose this must be one of the earlier episodes they made, so Mister Knight doesn't have the perfect Zurgie voice yet?
Saaame with the Grubs...
"Never mind. Not important... *smug look*" Man, for some reason that makes Zurg seem to me more sadistic than usual. Strange... Maybe it's the voice.
Buzz removes random parts as part of buoy maintenance... If those parts are not important enough for them to be able to be removed, why put them in there in the first place? It didn't look like he was replacing them... Or maybe they floated in as space junk tends to do.
Rocket Crockett wears no thermal hoodie... It makes me think he's naked underneath his suit. Or at least topless.
"Exercise time for the prisoner is now over..." Well, at least he cares about his prisoner's health!
"DON'T. EVER. TOUCH. ME. ...I got a thing about personal space." Way to make a creepy scene anti-climatic.
The music when Torque shows up to taunt Buzz... For some reason I'm thinking either Grease or West Side Story. The latter I haven't seen, mind.
How do you get a huge thing like that stuck on your head? You'd think Booster would know better than to stick his head in it...
"We're going to blow up the headquarters of the Galactic Alliance!" Anyone else think he looks a little... smile-like... right there?
Hmm... I'm a little concerned about where the tankers are headed now...
Where are these cameras Zurg has and why has no one noticed them yet?!
I like how no one cares that there's fifty Torques walking in at once.
And now, for the questions...
- Spoiler:
- 1. Why do you think the Space Rangers haven’t made Tradeworld a significantly safer place?
Well, presumably, Tradeworld is a large planet with a large population of people who may be lower class than others. As my mom is always quick to point out when we drive through these areas around here, lower class area tend to be more likely to do criminal things. Not only that, but isn't there a large black market of sorts that exists on Tradeworld? (I can't remember.) There might not be enough space rangers to patrol it enough to keep it safer than the level it is right now. Considering the amount of people and amount of crime on a normal day, I mean. It's possible that they are working to make it safer, but they might not have enough resources to change it when there are so many people who don't want it to change due to a comfortable lifestyle they may have already set up, criminal or otherwise.
2. What did you think of Buzz’s rivalry with Torque and Rocket Crockett?
It shows that Buzz has his faults and is susceptible to things such as petty arguments, the need to prove superior, and anger/jealousy. ...I thought I'd have more to say on this, but I might as well save it for the later questions.
3. Do you think that the cloning device Torque has causes him problems or will cause him problems in the future?
I would wonder what issues he'd have if said device were to malfunction. Not everything last forever, and technology degrades to the point where parts have to be replaced. So I wonder what would happen when it came time to replace parts of the cloning device. And how would he know that it needed to be replaced? He could end up sick and dying because of a malfunction or something like that. And, I figure that you might have meant what problems could happen to him physically due to cloning rather than the device, but this is a thought I've already had when it comes to any type of technology placed into a living thing.
4. Is Buzz’s friction with other Rangers understandable or do you think he might be in the wrong? Do you think Rocket might be in the wrong instead?
And this is where I continue my thought from earlier. They're both in the wrong, in my opinion. Buzz is known to be the best space ranger out there, but that doesn't mean that other rangers should be jealous of him or try to gloat when they show him up in some way. Likewise, Buzz shouldn't gloat and try to show up other people as he's known to do. For instance: "Need me to save your hide again?" Being a jerk about your accomplishments is what leads to people disliking you. I can't help but think that when two people compete to try and prove superior to the other, at least one of them will end up resentful by the end of it...
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Re: Rewatch: #01: The Torque Armada
Steel wrote:
I also really loved the whole "DON'T. EVER. TOUCH. ME." part. Pretty intimidating if you ask me. You don't just manhandle the Evil Emperor like that! THE EVIL EMPEROR MANHANDLES YOU!
I loved that scene as well. It's one of the rare times when the Evil Emperor really crept me out.
- Spoiler:
- 1. Why do you think the Space Rangers haven’t made Tradeworld a significantly safer place?
I don't think that they have enough Rangers to patrol Tradeworld. Or maybe they had tried, but the citizens don't want change and had forced them out?
2. What did you think of Buzz’s rivalry with Torque and Rocket Crockett?
It shows that as good Buzz is with his job, he is prone to things like petty arguments and that no matter how good he was the other Rangers can also be annoyed with his attitude as well.
3. Do you think that the cloning device Torque has causes him problems or will cause him problems in the future?
I think that it would cause him problems in the future. The whole cloning thing wasn't something his species had naturally. So, anything could happen. Maybe it had mutated his genes in some way or other that would be noticeable later in life?
4. Is Buzz’s friction with other Rangers understandable or do you think he might be in the wrong? Do you think Rocket might be in the wrong instead?
I personally see them both in the wrong. The other Rangers shouldn't be jealous of the fact that Buzz is the best Ranger out there. But, Buzz was also in the wrong for rubbing it in whenever he saved their hides. No matter how good you are in your job, no one likes it when someone brags how good they are.
Re: Rewatch: #01: The Torque Armada
- Spoiler:
- 1. Why do you think the Space Rangers haven’t made Tradeworld a significantly safer place?
That's a good question. I honestly never thought of that all this time. It could be that Tradeworld has had so many problems going on at once for such a long time, that the Space Rangers can't keep up.
2. What did you think of Buzz’s rivalry with Torque and Rocket Crockett?
I think it definitely shows that Buzz has a competitive side to him. Being the number one well known Space Ranger probably needs more than just having good morals.
3. Do you think that the cloning device Torque has causes him problems or will cause him problems in the future?
I wouldn't be surprised if this caused him problems in the future. How many clones can his body handle before he starts to deteriorate? On the other hand Zurg could have chosen him because his body would be able to handle it. Torque does resemble a single celled organism...
4. Is Buzz’s friction with other Rangers understandable or do you think he might be in the wrong? Do you think Rocket might be in the wrong instead?
It's hard to tell what started the friction between Rocket and Buzz to begin with. Maybe Rocket is jealous of Buzz, so he constantly bugs him over his mistakes. Maybe Buzz saved Rocket one too many times, so he doesn't want to be around him anymore.
Either way it probably won't help them if they are forced to work together in the future.
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Re: Rewatch: #01: The Torque Armada
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1. Why do you think the Space Rangers haven’t made Tradeworld a significantly safer place?
That's one of the questions I'd like to know. Perhaps Tradeworld is like the dark parts of big cities (Los Angeles, New York, San Francisco, etc.) where the poor folk live, and there's a lot of crime, and it takes a LOT of effort to clean up a place like that. Knowing Star Command, maybe they have yet to figure out a way to clean up Tradeworld?
2. What did you think of Buzz’s rivalry with Torque and Rocket Crockett?
For Torque, it's sort of nice to see that even Buzz, who is one of the best Rangers at S.C., can feel like Torque is getting around in his skin, irritating him however he can because it shows us, and I guess Buzz to an extent as well, that even people who are good at their jobs have issues.
For Rocket, I have to admit, when I first saw him, I didn't like him at first. His attitude was kind of arrogant and cocky. But after seeing him in a few episodes, he's kind of grown on me. He's not my favorite character, but he has grown on me. I kind of like the rivalry between Rocket and Buzz because it kind of shows that there will be somebody who will try to do a better job than you in whatever area of work you're in. It also shows that Buzz has to work even harder to do his job well, and learn not to get aggravated whenever he's doing a boring assignment.
3. Do you think that the cloning device Torque has causes him problems or will cause him problems in the future?
It is possible that his body would give out after all the cloning he's done, but I don't think it's likely. For one thing, he seems to recover quickly after he clones himself, and considering what sort of alien he is, I wouldn't be surprised if it had no effect on him. Maybe that's why Zurg chose Torque in the first place-besides being one of the best fighters out there, Torque also has a unique body pattern that wouldn't be harmed during the cloning process.
4. Is Buzz’s friction with other Rangers understandable or do you think he might be in the wrong? Do you think Rocket might be in the wrong instead?
Hmm...I think it's understandable how Buzz can get a bit tense with other Rangers who do their job just as well as he does. I mean, as Old Buzz says in Good Ol' Buzz, he hates it when the spotlight isn't on him. I know I'm kind of jumping ahead, but I think it's vital to bring up for the sake of the argument. He wants to be recognized, all the time I suppose, for doing his job the right way, and I think it's safe to presume that it causes a lot of Rangers to be under some sort of pressure-to do their jobs well as Buzz, considering Buzz is a major symbol of Star Command, and they probably want to be recognized for their abilities to make the galaxy a better place. I mean, Buzz isn't the only Space Ranger at Star Command. The other Rangers should be given credit where credit is due because they have their unique talents that they chose to use for good to help other people.
Granted, there are Rangers who may not care about being the best. They may simply care about doing their jobs, and could care less how Buzz is one of the top Rangers at Star Command.
For Rocket, yes, he is a bit cocky, and yes, he can be a bit of a show-off at times, but he is a good Ranger. I mean, he does want to do his job on a more grand scale-taking down baddies vs. fixing up satellite dishes, and he does his best to fight enemies however he can. And while he doesn't always show it, he does support other Rangers, like in The Starthought, for example. He may have been a bit jealous because of Buzz doing a majority of the work and not him, or any Rangers for that matter.
For Ty...need I say more? The poor guy's been in his shadow for a long time, and naturally he's sick of it. He wants to prove that he's a good Ranger as anybody else out there. His selflessness is something that is very valued when it comes to being a fighter, and Ty clearly does that well, even if he didn't like Buzz at the time of his introduction episode. I think it's possible that Ty and Rocket get along well due to their sort-of frustration with Buzz, but because Ty and Buzz have mended their friendship, Ty is better about Buzz's skills than Rocket.
So in a nutshell, I think it depends on the person. I mean, I'm sure that while Buzz is generally a likable person, there are some people who will feel jealous of his status one way or another, but they'll do their best to do the right thing in spite of that.
WHOO! Man, that's quite a long post I made. Oh well.
FUN FACTS: Torque was voiced by Brad Garrett, who voiced Lobo on Superman: The Animated Series! I think Torque and Lobo would get along well, and not just because they have the same voice actor. xD
Zurg torturing his prisoners?...We know he can be an evil emperor, indeed.
Rocket Crockett wears a thermal uniform underneath...it has no turtleneck!...or at least that's my theory, anyway.
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Re: Rewatch: #01: The Torque Armada
Part 1: Protocol
Part 2: Response
To come
Part 3: Questions
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- Gaww, the English voices <3
The first shot of Trade-World and especially the music playing there left a pretty Tonic-Trouble-esque impression on me… (see my notes on “TAB”)
Actually, I thought the music was rather chilling here.
And XR is just super adorable xD
…the flickering of Booster’s… suit-holographic-thingy TERRIBLY irks me oo”
2:10
Now I’m TRIGGER HAPPY, Trigger happy everyday
Better watch out punk or I’m gonna have to blow you away ~
You know I really miss that AMV
In my earlier years the excessive shooting was probably the only thing in this series that I disapproved of. But later I got so used to the “action” of it, that when Cinderella was re-released and I watched it with Mom (her fav Disney movie) I found it kind of… boring.
2:33
OH GOD THE EYES
2:36
Okay, so XR and Booster have the SAME gun? Funny it never reappears in the series.
What about their wrist lasers? Buzz uses his wrist laser.
5:31
The inside of XR’s eyes is green! xD
Zurg’s face looks kinda weird drawn by that studio :/
The eyes, the ‘lips’… I dunno
Rocket Crocket’s design looks rather interesting though. His NECK is massive and wow his chin. And we always thought Buzz’s chin was big xD
Really like his voice though.
And look they switched Zurg’s emblem in the “Don’t eve touch me” scene. It’s red on Yellow there xD
And in 11:58 it’s a lightning instead of a Z (and sweet mother of venus didya see his FACE?)
MAJOR messup here, Animators!
I do love how Zurg instructs Torque’s powers though, he makes it look really noble xD
13:42
The original Torque, Buzz is talking to does not wear the cloning device
But in the next shot he does.
16:52
Timmy: “Bogus, man!”
Bonkers: “What Bogus?”
Timmy: “No way could a traffic light stop water!”
Bonkers: “Don’t you ever study the classics? Watch a cartoons sometime!”
17:42
Nobody understands that, yes?
18:52
Lol the eyes of that left alien are so adorable.
Wasn’t a look-alike of his kind in Planet of the Lost?
You know when Torque takes all his clones out for party and drinks – expensive much?
If he wants to be a good buddy to himself, why not just… buy a drink for himself when he’s uncloned? Oh well xD
19:21
One of the Torques has a grey belt – the others don’t. Now really, Animators – if it’s the SAME character over and over again…
The massive Bandaged Torque Gang on the cruiser was… rather adorable though xD
Part 2: Response
To come
Part 3: Questions
- Spoiler:
- Why do you think the Space Rangers haven’t made Tradeworld a significantly safer place?
Well it still IS a whole planet, and as we take from other episodes THE planet when it comes to black-marketing and criminals. And Star Command is… a not-so-big-compared-to-a-planet organisation.
That’s kind of like asking why there are still criminals on earth or why slums still exist and not every person can live happily ever after because of our precious friend and helper the police.
Then again this IS a Disney show we’re talking about here, so the whole subject of Tradeworld is a rather edgy thing to touch upon, isn’t it?
What did you think of Buzz’s rivalry with Torque and Rocket Crockett?
It’s most certainly something that I don’t recall being in any other episode and really… felt kind of out of character :/
Do you think that the cloning device Torque has causes him problems or will cause him problems in the future?
Given the Grubs technology with their ‘unbreakable’ stuff and all? I wouldn’t be surprised, though I don’t remember anything happening in-series.
Other than that there’s only the thing of really taking care of them. He doesn’t seem to be able to get rid of them, after summoning them (in this episode, though we never see him try either) which again leads to MASSIVE costs of… beer-drinking and whatnot.
Of course he’s a criminal, maybe he just intimidates the hosts, but… meh, less for them means more for him, right?
Is Buzz’s friction with other Rangers understandable or do you think he might be in the wrong? Do you think Rocket might be in the wrong instead?
Well basically Rocket is a provoker. I don’t remember Buzz being hostile to any other ranger than him. And if he creates friction, most of the time he doesn’t even realize it (example: Ty)
In this episode though I did think Buzz was kind of a jerk in a way, especially that last sequence as his team darted off, leaving Rocket with the new assignment. I mean… really? And that’s what you want to teach the youth? To get back at the people you don’t like? Way to go Disney.
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Re: Rewatch: #01: The Torque Armada
I don't think Buzz and Mira are very shippable. Mira has a tangean grounder boyfriend already, and buzz has (lol) gravitina (or whatever her name is)
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