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The Vampire Bite

Post by levy120 on Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:47 pm

Yes, because… I’ve been reading faaaanfics again (there aren’t nearly enough of this kind *shot*), and while comparing it to the show it’s certainly interesting to see different versions and interpretations to the Vampire Bite based on the PoV of the character (XR or Nos?) and author. Some of these – in their essence – are actually rather similar, and lately… I’ve been pondering how accurate those interpretations actually are.

Let's see what the show itself gives us to work with maybe.
With all of this in mind, I suppose that most of the decisions they took were taken because the show is G or at the very least PG rated, so they couldn’t show too much violence, but what does that mean, technically?

Pain
Spoiler:
Is a Vampire Bite painful? This is something that gets portrayed very often by fics that center on XR’s point of view and if I am to be honest? I am NOT entirely sure of that. The Vampire Bite how we see in in BLoSC seems to be heavily inspired by classic vampire lore in how Nos-4-A2 mind-controls the victim at first in order for them to not resist and his work to go down ‘quietly’. We’ll get to that in a later part though.
Maybe the actual breaking of the shell or breaching of the engine or the draining of energy WOULD be painful if it weren’t for that kind of mind control, but I doubt that the victims are terribly aware of that. Why do I think so?
Because we see Nos-4-A2 bite multiple victims on screen, XR and the Vending Machine in “The Slayer” (with the latter sounding more relaxed than anything, without being hypnotized), the Sentry Bot from “Wirewolf” (which looks TERRIBLY ripped open, but seems too wasted to really complain) but the curious thing?
We never actually hear them scream in the show. It’s like they’re numbed down or something.

Again in “The Slayer” we get some, if little, background info on how such a bite functions with Nos-4-A2 elaborating his revenge plan to XR with draining him slowly. Now that is something that I imagine as… uncomfortable, but I’m not exactly sure if painful is the right word for this.
In all honesty… it sounds more like a tease, doesn’t it?

Now with XR I don’t really think that he actually cares much about the damage of the penetration because frankly – I don’t think he really “feels” that kind of stuff. If he were able to feel stuff like that, it’d be really bad considering he’s really seen worse with the multiple times of explosions that he’s been through… but he DOES put on a justified “do not want” attitude towards the energy vampire.

I think it comes from the

mind-control
Spoiler:
This is a part, honestly, that intrigues me a lot more than the actual bite. The question that I ask myself – especially in regard of Nos-4-A2 – where we see that being played out the most (the other only attempt being in Dirty Work) is… in how far is XR mind-controlled? Some of the things he says in this state still pretty much sound like him (though it’s mostly in the early stages) and in other cases (mostly when Nos and XR are having some sort of “Dark-Master-Moment”) it just gets very bizarre.

So the question here is – in how far does XR’s actual programming/personality (he talks about deleting a specific file in Dirty Work at least) get either corrupted or in a way pushed out of his mind. I think the difference here is much like the comparison between a Trojan Horse or a Virus. A Trojan Horse would corrupt him to open up gates for Nos-4-A2’s influence and a Virus would be a single file that takes over his body? *shrug* I don’t know really xD

In either event XR seems to be still aware of the things he does while he’s being mind-controlled. He DID remember his authorization form for one thing and knew what it was about that thing (albeit he didn’t really remember much about his team in that moment).
Furthermore – let’s for a moment remember the glorious scene on-board of 42 in Wirewolf where Mira tells us about all the things we don’t see referring to a meeting that happened ‘last time’ and although it sounds very similar to the first Nos episode and Wirewolf being a direct Prequel to Revenge with initiates Nos-4-A2’s death it really couldn’t be the first episode because what with “The Slayer” and “Dirty Work” in that case? I digress – but case in point is that she also mentions XR remaining(?) mind-controlled FOR A WEEK, supposedly even after (?) Nos-4-A2 had been defeated(???).

Which brings us to…

Aftereffects, aka “FAAAANGS?”
Spoiler:
Yah, shoot me and all, but I don’t think they were fake :s
I think these little fangs we see in Nos-4-A2 and the very progress of how such a vampire bite actually functions are some of the greater mysteries when it comes to energy-vampirism.

So XR grows FANGS. Do they function just like Nos-4-A2's? The only other ‘victim’ we ever see that happening to are the Vampire-Hornets in “Revenge” who from the bite seem to also gain a change in physique because SURPRISE, they’re immune to laser fire! So what exactly does that mean for the robot…?
Interestingly – as we see on XR though – this effect doesn’t last, the fangs disappear after “Nos-4-A2” and never show up again.

It should also be noted that these changes don’t happen to every victim that Nos-4-A2 encounters! Now there are several different versions in general vampire-lore about how a bite functions already and what kind of effect it has on the victim. ALLUSION TIME! Contrasting examples being “Tanz der Vampire/Fearless Vampire Killers” where a victim ‘changes’ after only a mere bite (which leads to an unwilling and always multiplying INFESTION of vampires that struggle with each other for the sake of food) and the more popular Dracula, Hellsing, Anne Rice lore (as far as I get it from the movies at least) were the victim in exchange has to drink the blood of the vampire turning him/her in order for this process to work instead of having them ‘just die’ or in the case of Hellsing ‘turning into ghouls’.

Now, this might be strange but I think… even though I am not too familiar with this kind of fandom the SUPER NOT PG COMAPTIBLE HELLSING works best with this… why?! Because Nos-4-A2 can revive all his previous victims into glorious zombies that are too brainless to know what they’re supposed to attack. Why NOT? These Zombies still consider him their master in a way – If I remember correctly the ghouls in Hellsing are rogues…

Again, what does that mean for the NOT-entirely drained victims though, like XR or the Vending Machine from Slayer. Notably the Vending Machine was still capable of talking, hence not entirely drained albeit of not seeming very influenced at all.
So in the case of XR and the Vampire Hornets – I think we have to consider some additional procedures that were never shown on-screen. Fridge Horror?
Most definitely. But isn’t Horror what vampires are (should be!) all about? ~ *shot*

Oh, and DON’T make me start on the entire Wirewolf thing xD
The WIREWOLF is a predatory creature that just like Nos-4-A2 FEEDS ON ENERGY or… robots as a whole. Now his plan to turn the whole galaxy into these things… I’m not so sure if that is such a good idea Nosy, because you see – these things will eventually drain each other. We see how everyone went wild and rampaging, especially on each other in the terms of the senators. This plan Nos, isn’t going to serve you robots on a silver platter – it’s gonna make you have to fight even harder for them, like in the case of the “TdV/FVK” allusion example stated earlier. But I guess he just didn’t think so far.


Aaaand I think we’re slowly getting to an end here. I feel like I forgot something, but honestly – I think that for a start this has been enough. Maybe I’ll remember what else I wanted to say if you throw in your points.


TLDR; Brainstorming

Pain:
Argument: Physically probably no
Reasoning: No screams from ON-SCREEN bites in Slayer
Backup:
- Hypnotization to avoid noise of struggle in contrast with the common fandom belief of Nos-4-A2 relishing screaming victims.
- A sort of… ‘relaxed’ sleepiness from other victims like in Wirewolf or the Vending Machine.

Mind Control:
Question: In how far is XR aware of that and in how far is it actually XR?
Possibilities: Being corrupted or “pushed out of his body” for the sake of the foreign programming
Examples:
- “Nos-4-A2” (episode) in a whole
- Trance sequence in “Dirty Work”
- Mira stating that he had been controlled for a WEEK in “Wirewolf”

After Effects:
- Biting Process?
- Changes in Physique (Fangs; Sturdiness…)
- Allusions?
- Fridge Horror VS PG RATING?
- Wirewolf?

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Re: The Vampire Bite

Post by Feral Dog on Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:58 pm

Throwing in my points:

The show, for obvious reasons, decided to treat NOS's energy draining as similar to blood loss, which is pretty horrible if you're prone to Fridge Logic. A person bleeding out can be conscious and aware of what's happening to them for quite a while before they faint, especially if it's a slow, continuous bleed like from a vein. Arterial bleeding is pretty speedy by comparison. And if the queasiness blood donors report is any indication as to the bleeder's experience... Sentry 1 and the vending machine could have been in the robot equivalent of hypovolemic shock (lethargy being a symptom of later stages) instead of or alongside hypnosis. Eeeek.

NOS-4-A2 can apparently control how fast he drains another robot, and whether or not they can feel it happening to them (or so I'm guessing, based on his threat to XR in the Slayer), but he doesn't usually have that luxury. In RotM he takes his sweet time feeding on that Hornet, even letting energy go flying in all directions while he gushed over how delicious it was, compared with the Sentry and the vending machine, who were drained pretty quickly before some human interrupted him. He seems like he'd like quiet, helpless prey most (struggling prey would probably be more like a power trip rather than a simple food run).


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